Tuesday, February 13, 2007
IBM and Ghana (Abena A)
Ghana needs help Africa needs help this is great for Ghana The big concern is the
pastor/ his majesty, that every Ghanaian who knows him has nothing positive about him.
This is our fears We will talk more about the person involved in this great project.
Abena
IBM and Ghana (Kwabena A)
Nobody is against any helping hand to Ghana and Africa.
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Subject: Re: Ghana Trip Attachments
From: kwabenaa@aol.com
Date: Sunday, February 11, 2007 5:33 am
Subject: Re: Ghana Trip Attachments
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> Edmund, I'm not sure that the conversation needs to be posted on
> NPR. Ghanaian bloggers are the most cruel and crude that I've ever
> read. I'm sorry, but that is exactly how I feel about their
> ferocious attacks on one another. Their "debates" lack depth of
> thought. They degenerate into ethnic attacks for lack of
> communicati! ng skills
IBM and Ghana (Edgar G)
I was down with this until I read the name Fletcher...Don't know if you know this guy but he is an arrogant, self-ritcheous prick and a phony...at least that's the impression I got from those I know whom have attended his church.
Overall the project sounds great...keep me posted
About Barack:
Trust me Barack's black enough...truth is as a minority, the majority of us will vote for our own people unconditionaly. The candidate could be white with his last name "Black" printed on the ballet and we would vote for him by default.
All this hoopla about Barack's "brothahood" is all just a smoke screen for what I believe to be the senator's true flaw...substance or lack there of. You see ever since Obama delivered that powerful speech at the democratic convention in 04', his buz has been at peak level. Senator Obama is an excellent orator, thus he is extremely effective in large crowds. He delivers a message of unity across party-lines, a theme that seems to be selling at the moment. But what about policy? for instance, what is the senator's stance on our economy? and what are his plans to improve it? I can live with Barack approaching this campaign as a Washington outsider, but at some point the ideological rhetoric will have to be backed up by an agenda with a clear objective...and maybe ...just maybe Obama will have a chance of pulling this off.
On a side note: As happy as I am for Barack and Hilary, is it just me or do you feel that during a time when the democrats have control of the congress and the oval-office is just ripe for the picking, that the party is taking a huge risk by promoting Barack and Hilary as their front runners? After all they would have to set a precedence in American voting history just to win what would have been close to a sure seat in the white house for the democrats this go round. They truly are the best candidates but Rudy Julliani (sp) is a white male. They have their work cut for them.
Talk to me,
Edgar
I want to apologize for morphing Kwasi's original msg. into an irrelevent debate. Let me clear the record. This project/ opportunity that Kwasi forwarded to us is very legit. It seems that my remarks about "His Royal Majesty Kinglsy Fletcher" has opened up the floor for some us to voice our reservations about corrupt African politics. This is fine, but I did not intend to distort what was meant to be a simple FYI.
Thank you,
Edgar Gaisie
P.S.
Lets keep the communication up!
IBM and Ghana (Kwabena A)
I'll talk with several of you, individually, in course of time, and off the record. I know almost every one who is in on this conversation. I've always challenged most of you, my kids and you, my many nephews to stimulating debates. We don't get to meet often these days, so I felt compelled to write. Let's keep this conversation here for now. Of course I know how the internet works ... by now, this has leaked to a friend of a friend of a friend.
I'll give my opinion on the Kenyan for President later this afternoon. I need to catch a few hours of sleep before the cock crows, he-he-he. Yes I hear the cocks crow when I call my Mom in Ghana at dawn.
Talk with you later.
IBM and Ghana (Edmund G)
Nevertheless, I am moved by both sides of this debate. However, I have to second the countless gems Uncle Kwabenaa dropped in the previous email. I admit I do not no the details of this conference, therefore I am hesitant to dismiss its relevance. On the other hand the so called King affiliated with this project does seem a bit suspect. After observing his website, I noticed I could find endless information on "The King" and barely a sentence about the projects he spearheaded (mind you this criticism is coming from a self-proclaimed narcissist).
Oh and one last thing! Big Up to Barak Obama! Why in 2007 is the Black - American leadership saying he is not Black enough to represent the African American population? Don't let me get started! He is one of the most unique public servants to enter American politics, black or white. With that.... I step off my box of Tide.
IBM and Ghana (Kwabena A)
For the rest of the audience, my concern is the "Blay Miezer" type of dignitaries that I've heard nothing positive about for all the 22 years I've lived in this state with them (him). I applaud their desire to help Africa. I urge you all who can do something to do anything you can to help Africa. But be careful who your partners are, be they Ghanaians or not.
The history of Ghana, and presumably Africa, is fraught with those who came with the Bible, the Koran, the Tora, the Githa; with Colonialism, Imperialism, Socialism, Communism; with Democracy; with Instigation of Coups d'Etat, with Military Dictatorship; and now with "Good Governance for forgiveness of debt", all in exploitation of our human and natural resources. In Africa, you do not need letters of credit for the delivery of an AK-47 (automatic rifle) to your hut. But you will pay import duty on a bottle of Aspirin to your grandfather in Suhum.
"Forgiveness of debt": DEBT for which we have nothing to show; no airlines, railways, roads, bridges, hospitals, electricity, schools, libraries, pipe-borne water, sewerage. Nothing in return for our gold and diamond in the crowns of Queens in countries without a single diamond mine. Oil is siphoned from African rivers and lakes, farm lands and shores. Where did the debt come from? Who deposited the loan (for Ghana, for Nigeria, for Kenya) in the private accounts of the bad guys? What commission did the lenders take? How much of the principal was held back to service the loans? To insure the loans? As origination fee? Oh my God! We are bleeding with pain for the (mis)behavior of our contemporaries. We stood by as technologists and left politics to others. We focused on our research and paid no heed to the corruption. The legacy I want to leave with you is what Ronald Reagan said to (of) Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev: "Trust but verify". Where can we go from here?
Let us use our influences and our connections here, with our Majesties and their royal highnesses, in their petty kingdoms, to appeal to ALCOA to renegotiate the Volta Hydroelectric Power Contract of 50 years ago so that the people of Ghana can get a little bit more of the electricity from the Akosombo Dam. Just for home use. Let us appeal to Tyson chicken to invest in chicken/poultry farms in Ghana to provide jobs for the consumers of their product. (Imported Tyson chicken costs less than any chicken anybody can rear in Ghana). Let us appeal to Hershey of Pennsylvania to invest in pre-processing of cocoa in Ghana and/or Ivory Coast.
Earlier today, I coiled in a fetal position with chills as I listened to Senator Barack Obama declare his candidacy for the President of the United States of America. This is a Kenyan! He never forgot his roots. He visited his native land recently. Do we have a delegation of Africans in America to support his candidacy. This is a proposal for his royal highness to consider. If (when) Obama gets to the White House, unlike a certain country in the "middle east", will Kenya and/or Africa be ready to benefit from their native son's position? I doubt it.
God bless Africa.
1) who cannot spell G-h-a-n-a-i-a-n (spelled in the article as "Ghanian") ... and I don't care what Merriam-Webster or anyone else thinks ...
2) and who thinks there are Africans in "Gahana" ...
3) and who thinks there is a "Shai Kingdom of the Republic of Ghana" today
is to be watched very carefully.
Ask any Ghanaian to tell you about Mr. Blay Miezer before you fall prey to another one of his kind!
Ghana's technological advancement cannot be planned from the pulpit!
Barrack Obama (Kwasi and Edmund)
Kwasi Asare
Sharpton and Dyson (for Edmund: spoke at NCCU graduation)? come on man please don't tell me the qualify as black leadership, intelligentsia, or the moral compass of black America and don't get me even started on Uncle Jesse...if I'm hanging out with Michael Essein and he gets shot, that doesn't make me the starting defensive midfielder for Ghana and ChelseaKwasi Asare
"Common sense is common, but it's just not common to everybody"
~Emmanuel Anoff
Barack Obama (Kwabena A)
Barack Obama (Edmund)
About Barak Obama: African American leaders didn't come straight out and say Barack Obama isn't "Black Enough". The media has interpereted it that way and judging from earlier comments from the Black leadership I would have come to the same conclusion. I've heard Cornel West, Michael.....(Gentleman who spoke at Edgar's graduation), and Al Sharpton make comments on the level that Barack Obama does not fully represent the issues of the African American community, therefore he shouldn't be assumed as the favorite canidate. I truly believe that just because a canidate is black doesn't mean that he automatically earns the black vote. However, Barak Obama's politial career began in the black community on the south side of Chicago. Let's face it, he's no Alan Keyes and at the same time he is no Jesse Jackson. This is what makes him appealing to me. He's sympathetic to race issues, however, his rehtoric on race issues is current and does not mimic the traditional civil rights play book. Don't get me wrong he is still a politician and I'm sure he will make political decsisions that dissapoint me. However, I get the sense that he approaches social and political issues with a sense of pragmatism that is rare in liberal politics. On one other hand I can appreciate the resentment that must come from some of the black leadership. I can imagine being Jesse Jackson, having ran for president before and being an icon of the civil rights movement for almost 40 years. To have a newcomer like Barack Obama soak up all the attention with little opposition, I'd be a little resentful too. However, I believe that gap will close as 2008 approaches.
Bill Clinton has more political instincts in his pinky toe then his wife will ever have. She is extremely smart, however, she is a politician with no unique ideas of her own and I don't think she will make a good president. In my opinion black Americans don't owe Hillary anything for marrying Bill.
Barrack Obama
The Clintons did quite a bit, if not a lot, for the African-American community. I heard someone say that Bill Clinton was the next best thing to a black president. I appreciate the loyalty of anyone in the African-American community who feels that Mrs Clinton has to be rewarded for her husband's good deeds. Obama came in after Mrs Clinton's camp has put out the prospects for her candidacy. It will take time for Obama to gain the name recognition and traction the Clinton's have. He is on his way.
I've no doubt that in the muddy waters of party politics, everything, including the kitchen sink will be thrown at the opponent. Why not hurt him by casting doubts about his faith, his blood line, his loyalty to your cause?
It is sad, isn't it? And if those accusations do not stick why not go deeper to hurt him. Is the issue because his mother is not of African descent? Is it because his father is not an American? Is it because his parents did not experience the pain and pangs of Government sanctioned racism and discrimination? Is it because his father did not have to use "Colors only" wash room? Is it because he or his father was not hosed in Mississippi or Alabama? Is it because he did not need the National Guard escort to enter Harvard?
Times have changed. Yes, we have a long way to go, but times have changed. A black woman has won the Oscar; a black man has won the Oscar. A black woman has been in outer space. A black woman has been shot and wounded in Iraq. A black man has died in Iraq. A black woman has been a Presidential candidate. Times have changed. But, yes, we have a long way to go.
Michelle Obama said (CBS) that her husband "being a black man Barack could be shot on his way to the gas station". She was speaking in the contest of what could happen to him as a Presidential candidate. She said they don't make their decisions "based on what could happen". It was not the truthfulness of her statement that shocked me as the body language of Obama, sitting beside her with his eyes glued to the floor! It's obviously something they've talked about and deeply buried in his mind (as if I know anything about psychoanalysis). How sad? How sad it is? Michelle was right. But if, God forbid, that would happen to another black man, on his way to the noble office of the Presidency of the United States of America that should not end the struggle. Their decision is not based on what could happen. May God protect this family.
Obama's success is the shot in the arm (no pun intended) that every African-American mother has been craving: the male role model for their sons. America, wake up! Charles Buckley did not want to be a role model. African American youth, let your "uncle" Obama be your role model!
Talk with you later.
Kwabena
-----Original Message-----
From: egaisie1@yahoo.com
Oh and one last thing! Big Up to Barak Obama! Why in 2007 is the Black - American leadership saying he is not Black enough to represent the African American population? Don't let me get started! He is one of the most unique public servants to enter American politics, black or white. With that.... I step off my box of Tide.

